Syncope vs Seizure
Fainting by love in Philadelphia Museum of Art
The Doctor's Visit by Jan SteenSyncope spectrum
-Normal
-Prodrome→ early autonomic sx
-Presyncope→ near-syncope
-Intermediary→ gray-out/ syncope threshold
-Syncope
-Recovery
Clinical history
What EXACTLY happened before, during, and after the event?
-open-ended quest at begining, than close
-LOC, incotinence
-Witness and recurrence
*avoid term fainting
-Triggers (sleep dep, drugs, stand) vs premonitory symptoms
-Eyes (open & position & pupil)
-Tunnel vision/ Black curtain
-Chest palpitations before fall
-BP & POC at arrival of EMS
Ask szs risk factors
-FH and personal PMH
-Developmental delay
-TBI/ consussion
-Febrile seizure
Fall pattern & awareness
-Velocity, stiffness, injury pattern, movement, color, sound, timing, and recovery
-Time to return to baseline, not for to be awake!
Convlusive syncope (aka syncopizing szs)-Szs provoked by syncope (hypoperfusion)
-Myoclonic > tonic moves
≠Recovery-time, color, and trigger
≠Myoclonus <10 movs, irreg amplitude, asynchronous
≠Abnormal move start after LOC (Szs start at same time)
Etiology
Szs 2/2 electrical discharge and syncope 2/2 hypoperfusion
-Syncope etiology-based classification→ ROCks!
Differentials of LOC
-Syncope vs szs
-FNDs (syncope and szs)
-TIA (posterior circ)
-Metabolic (HypoGlycemia, drugs)
-Concussion
-Sleep disorders (cataplexy)
-Drop attacks
-Panic attacks
-Migraines
Physical exam
-Look at skin and tongue/mouth s/f bruises & sweat
>Lat lac→ szs (SN 33%, SP 96%)
-Pupils→ autonomic fx
>szs→ midriasis, rare hippus; syncope→ no chage (usual)
-Orthostatic BP measurement
>OH vs nOH→ HR response
±Ewing battery s/f dysautonomia
Investigation
Inhospital
-EKG+Telemetry
-TTE
-rEEG±cEEG
±Neck vessel imaging→ s/f stenosis
±Lactate + CPK + Bicarb
±HypoP (SN20, SP93) + prolactin
Outpatient
±Ambulatory EEG
±MCOT/ILR
Indications for Tilt Table Test study
Cases non-diagnostic by H&P, ECG
-Vasovagal syncope vs POTS vs functional
-Syncope from szs
-Dx of delayed orthostatic ⬇️BP
-To recognize prodromes and perform countermeasures
Seizure likelihood
-Sheldon score
>"Have you ever woken up somewhere unusual with no memory of how you got there—blood in your mouth or strange, hard‑to‑explain sensations?"
Follow-up
≥ 2 episodes of LOC→ DMV (state-dependent)
Video
Seizure
Syncope
-Reflex orthostatic posture
Syncope
-Reflex orthostatic posture
Seizure
Syncope in heavy weight lifters
-Heavy lift + breath holding
Syncope (MSs)
-Induction of syncope
-Falls
-Akinetic syncope
-Myoclonus
-Other Movements
-Eye Movements


















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